Resenhas - The Three-Body Problem

William.Firmino 31/10/2024

Estamos mesmo sozinhos?
Resolvi dar uma chance após me interessar bastante pela série e o livro não decepciona. Apesar de um início arrastado, a obra consegue se manter interessante o suficiente para prender o leitor, ao menos até chegar nas partes mais interessantes. O primeiro livro não chega a ser eletrizante, mas possui diversas maneiras de fazer o leitor pensar e refletir sobre as questões debatidas. Além de boas explicações para quem não é familiarizado com os conceitos. Para quem gosta de ficção científica é muito gostoso de ir desvendando e entendendo o tudo o que o autor quer nos transmitir.

Heverton 09/06/2024

Cientificamente sci-fy
Gostei dos detalhes científicos pra justificar a trama. Tem muitas teorias aplicadas e discussão lógica sobre um eventual encontro com uma raça alienígena.

Ana Usui 28/05/2024

3 era pra ser um bom número Y . Y
Leitura conjunta na Tripulação de Papel

Os temas abordados no livro são todos muito interessantes e senti que o autor teve bastante cuidado em explicar diversas teorias de forma bem compreensível, porém, apesar da linguagem dele não ser difícil de acompanhar, o ritmo chega a ser um tanto arrastado. Acredito que isso se deve por conta da organização de capítulos e a prioridade que ele deu à certas informações.

Os monólogos da doutora Ye Wenjie são chatos mesmo de se ler, trouxe bastante contexto e construiu muito bem a motivação da personagem, maaas sinceramente faz a gente perder a vontade.

O livro passa muito esse sentimento de desesperança na humanidade, a velha filosofia de que o humano é inerentemente ruim, e fica dúbio se o autor é contra ou a favor dessa filosofia. Porque, mesmo que a gente saiba que a Ye Wenjie é a antagonista, os outros personagens não trazem uma visão oposta.

Quanto as questões políticas, não tenho conhecimento suficiente do assunto pra julgar, mas achei que trouxe uma complexidade bacana pra trama.

Em relação aos personagens como um todo, eles são clichés e bidimensionais, mas já esperava algo assim, não só é comum no gênero SciFi, como também muitas vezes não é o foco da literatura chinesa.

Fiquei frustrada com a falta de ação, mas isso é puramente pessoal e não se reflete na qualidade do livro, o problema físico em si dos três corpos é incrível e o jogo foi mega interessante de acompanhar, provavelmente irei buscar mais sobre o assunto, mas não é o bastante pra me segurar por mais dois livros.
No geral achei bem escrito, só não é meu estilo de drink.

Cibeli Sebajes 05/05/2024

Um problema além dos três corpos
Primeiro livro de uma trilogia sci-fi que é refrescante de ler, tanto pelo(s) contexto(s) em que a obra se passa como pela obra em si, é de se admirar a habilidade do escritor de passar conceitos físicos de forma que não fiquem tediosos na obra e que qualquer leitor é capaz de entender. Para ser uma resenha a altura teria que ser um longo texto comentando praticamente cada um dos capítulos tamanha as reviravoltas internas que acontecem nos personagens (e na história em si), mas como pretendo ser breve digo apenas que um dos aspectos que também mais gostei foi a representação da humanidade dividida em facções que perderam a fé na humanidade e por essa crença tem uma opiniões divergentes sobre o futuro da humanidade, Ye Wenjie é uma dessas personagens e apesar de tudo, digo que no fundo ela foi ingênua.

Larysse.kAmpel 28/03/2024

3 Body Problem
Uma instigante narrativa que mistura investigação e ficção científica de forma única, com diversos personagens memoráveis.

mrnakashima 27/03/2024

Just read it!
A long post to talk about the best science fiction work I've ever read. And it's certainly among the best things I've ever read, period.

It's a hard sci-fi trilogy called "Remembrance of Earth's Past," but, like "The Chronicles of Ice and Fire" ?? "Game of Thrones," it's better known by the title of the first book, "The Three-Body Problem." I read the English translation because it was assisted by the author. I'm not sure if the Brazilian version is translated directly from Chinese or is a translation of the translation.

If my excitement + science fiction is enough for you, buy the books and stop reading here. If you want to know what it's about, I'll make a short synopsis/review with the general context and minimal spoilers, because it's very hard to attract someone to reading without giving anything away. I'll try not to go beyond what's described in the book's synopsis on Amazon. If you've already read it and want to talk about it, please make sure to clearly mark spoilers in the comments.

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The warning is important because the trilogy will be turned into a Netflix series next year, produced by Benioff and Weiss, the guys from Game of Thrones, and it's one of the platform's main bets. As we know, the duo did very well with George R. R. Martin's series while there was written material, so it promises a lot. It will hardly be possible to translate all the material to TV, so, if you want to enjoy it before it becomes a trend, now is the time.

Blatant appeal to authority: among the fans of the series are, besides me, GRRM, Adam Savage, and Obama. It also won the Hugo Award for Best Novel in 2015, the oldest award for science fiction works. Let's go:

The trilogy was written by Liu Cixin, considered the greatest science fiction author in China. He's the same author of the terrible movie "The Wandering Earth," which I couldn't even finish watching. Perhaps it's a matter of scripting, production, and direction (in short, everything), because it's hard to believe that the two things came from the same mind judging by the cinematic product.

The fact that the books were written by a Chinese author adds an extra layer of originality, from the Western point of view. Most of the characters are Chinese, and I confess I had a bit of difficulty remembering the names of the characters while reading. I ended up printing the list provided at the beginning of the books to mitigate the issue. Anyway, the Chinese perspective on the cultural issues involved makes the story even more alien.

Here's my synopsis:

The story begins during the Chinese Cultural Revolution. It's a time of great oppression, and the new government tries to impose a communist vision on its population in all aspects of life, including science. Physics teachers are prevented from teaching fundamental things by referring to them by their correct names and terms. Einstein is seen as an agent of American imperialism, so teaching the Theory of Relativity is considered a subversive act and, therefore, censored.

Years later, the US starts the SETI project, which seeks to identify transmissions from extraterrestrial civilizations - the book dialogues, up to a certain point, with "Contact" by Carl Sagan, another of my favorites. By the way, a good starting point: imagine what "Contact" would be like if Ellie (who was played by Jodie Foster in the movie) instead of being raised in a democracy had grown up during the establishment of a very violent dictatorship.

The Chinese government, fearing being left behind, launches a similar project. Eventually, the US starts METI, which aims to send messages into space, and China follows suit. The discussion about what kind of message to send is very interesting and involves the conflict of worldview of the Cold War.

The project doesn't lead to much for many years until, one night, a certain Chinese scientist receives a message clearly produced by a technological civilization. But, instead of a business card, the content is a warning: "We have received your message. You're lucky because I am a pacifist, but my civilization is not. If you respond to this message, we will know not only the direction from where the message comes, but also the distance. DO NOT RESPOND!" I'm only telling you that we respond because the synopsis already says we will be invaded, but it will take more than 400 years.

Going back to the comparison with "Contact": the civilization that responded in that book wanted to include us in the galactic society. In this book, they want to eliminate us from the universe.

And the story goes from there and covers (mainly) several centuries of history. And, eventually, billions of years.

The most important thing about the book is the fact that the author presents a solution to the Fermi paradox, possibly the best one, in a way that seems to have philosophical-scientific relevance. I'll briefly explain what the paradox is about:

In 1961, Frank Drake proposed an equation to estimate the number of technological civilizations in the Milky Way. It's a simple probabilistic argument: multiply the number of stars in the galaxy by the fraction of those stars that have planets; by the fraction of those planets that would be viable for the emergence of life; by the fraction that would actually develop life; by the fraction of those planets that would develop intelligent life; by the fraction of those that would develop civilizations capable of communicating across space and by the lifespan of those civilizations.

The result predicted a number of up to 100 million technological civilizations in the galaxy. Detail: we hadn't discovered a single exoplanet at that time and estimated then that maybe 1 in every 1 million stars had planets. With the advancement of detection methods, we know today that the occurrence of planets is very common and, according to the most current estimates, at least 1 in every 6 stars have planets. It's estimated that 17% of stars have Earth-sized planets (at least 17 billion in our galaxy). Including gas giants in distant orbits, the number could reach 70 billion planets. As we also know that life on Earth is made of the most common elements of the universe and emerged as soon as environmental conditions allowed, less than 1 billion years after the planet's formation, it's assumed that life can't be such a rare event. No one with a minimum of scientific knowledge can reasonably assume that life emerged ONLY on Earth. Applying the most current data to Drake's equation, the number of technological civilizations in the Milky Way could be in the billions.

The Fermi paradox is the following: "if technological civilizations are so common in the galaxy, where is everybody?" There are a number of possible answers to this question. The most popular to date are 1) the hypothesis of the great filters, which says that technological civilizations tend to reach a point at which self-destruction is inevitable (environmental disasters, nuclear wars, etc.), and 2) that even with a high number of civilizations, the average distance between them is so great that it would never be crossed, either because it wouldn't be economically viable or because it's not possible to travel at speeds high enough to enable galactic colonization - the Milky Way is 100,000 light-years in diameter. There are other possible solutions, but none of them appeal to me much. Of those I mentioned, the first seems the least likely because it's hard to imagine that among billions, no civilization would have been able to avoid disasters or wars. The second because even traveling at speeds much lower than light (but much higher than what we achieve today with our fuel tubes) a lot could be done. It's estimated that at 1% of the speed of light it would be possible to colonize the Milky Way in 100 million years - a relatively short period of time for a universe that's 13.8 billion years old.

Liu Cixin's trilogy proposes a solution that seems to me the best we've thought of so far, and I won't tell it now. It's good because it's natural, elegant, Darwinian, and consistent with what we already know about the dynamics of life - things like "the selfish gene," for example. This solution stems from just two axioms and two principles established by the author, through one of the characters in the books who inaugurates a field of study called "cosmic sociology."

Given these premises, the book can be summarized as follows: what would happen if we discovered the existence of another civilization AND also that this civilization is hostile and much more advanced than us?

Other very intriguing questions raised by the work:

Can our observations of the universe, considering the short scientific lifespan of humanity, be extrapolated to the entire existence of the universe?

Would a universe in which life is common present itself to an observer in the same way as a universe devoid of life would?

The genre might be "hard sci-fi horror." It's scary, very scary...and a real existential fear because, if the premises I mentioned above are correct, we have plenty of reasons to live in fear. And perhaps what happens in the story is inevitable unless we take very specific care (which requires not just a huge technological leap, but also a cultural-social change that is not on the horizon.

This book disrupted my life. It's almost 1500 pages: 400 in the first book, 500 in the second, and 600 in the third. The first book is fantastic and ends at a point where the story is just beginning. The second is better than the first and has such a good, so satisfying ending that if it ended there, it would already be among the best things I've ever read. It leaves you wondering why there is a third book, even larger...and then comes a blow.

It disrupted me because I couldn't stop reading this thing and altered my routine to read. I finished it in about 15 days. For some supernatural reason, at 2:30 AM, there was always something that prevented me from stopping. And it also disrupted me because, wow, the thing is too gloomy!

The story, as I said, can be classified as hard sci-fi: it's scientifically accurate - almost all the time. For those who don't have a PhD in Physics, like Carlos Bonin, it's not bothersome. From what we discussed, there are few things that simply don't make sense according to what we know. The author also proposes things that we have no way of knowing whether they will be possible (and therefore plausible) and does so brilliantly. All the concepts used are well explained with metaphors, analogies, and allegories... Problems and solutions are created from concepts such as higher dimensions, nanotechnologies, Relativity, Quantum Mechanics, etc.

It's fascinating, I swear to you!

I take this opportunity to thank my friends Vítor Queijo and Carlos Bonin for the tip. I've already talked with the latter about the books; I await Vítor here to discuss with a drink. Cheese and wines...ha! ?

Mariana 03/12/2023

A história é muito bem construída e flui com muita naturalidade, as reflexões de cunho mais filosófico enriquecem muito os personagens e te convidam a pensar também. A pluralidade de narradores e linhas temporais deixam a história dinâmica e, por mais inacreditável que isso seja, não te deixa confuso, já que a escrita é maravilhosa: clara e precisa, mas de forma alguma simplista.

Mariana 03/12/2023

A história é muito bem construída e flui com muita naturalidade, as reflexões de cunho mais filosófico enriquecem muito os personagens e te convidam a pensar também. A pluralidade de narradores e linhas temporais deixam a história dinâmica e, por mais inacreditável que isso seja, não te deixa confuso, já que a escrita é maravilhosa: clara e precisa, mas de forma alguma simplista.

Yuri van Dorp 21/07/2023

Estou sentindo só o vazio depois de terminar esse livro, da maneira que eu já imaginava que iria acontecer.
Já vi que a sequência é ainda melhor e agora vou esperar voltar das férias pra continuar a série.

Whoama 24/03/2023

Meh
Fiquei bem decepcionada com esse livro. Como uma boa amante de sci-fi, a premissa me chamou bastante atenção, a parte científica é interessante (meio massa te as vezes), mas quando introduziu aquele "jogo" no meio eu achei bem chato. O mistério inicial foi intrigante, mas não conseguiu me manter tão interessada. Demorei horrores pra terminar ele, e sendo sincera, minha motivação para continar após os 60% foi para marcar ele como lido, porque já tinha investido muito tempo para colocar como abandonado kkkkk e também queria ver se ia melhorar no final, mas ficou na mesma.

MaurAcio.Garrido 03/08/2022

O problema de quem lê..
Já te agarra no início...
Eu só tinha que largar o livro por causa do cansaço do dia-a-dia corrido. Tenho que acordar cedo...

Vale a leitura!

Já me organizei pro ano que vem ler a segunda parte!

Carlos.Bonin 12/04/2022

A cosmic horror
I guess this is the most satisfying science-fiction book I've read since Forward's Dragon Egg. It's beautiful because we can perceive the Chinese culture in the translation. It's also hard- syfy cosmic horror. It is written by an engineer, and it shows. But even so, it is satisfying.

Anderson 26/12/2021

Ficção científica de ideias
Uma das mais densas e instigantes obras de ficção científica dos últimos tempos. Gosto da maneira como mistura história, política, física e mudança climática. Aliás, nesse último aspecto não sei se concordo com alguns pontos de vista apresentados, mas não dá pra negar que o livro faz pensar bastante.

Lhyz 10/05/2021

"In the face of madness, rationality was powerless."
Esse livro é diferente de tudo que eu já li, não só por ser ficção científica (gênero que ainda leio pouco), ele é escrito por um autor chinês renomado. Finalmente me deparei com um livro que não seja uma visão ocidental dos fatos.

Uma das maiores críticas à essa obra é a construção de personagens e, na verdade, eu NÃO acho que o autor é ausente de habilidades para tal, mas apenas - por não seguir modelos ocidentais de criação de personagens - difere. Aqui, para mim, os personagens são apenas olhos e um "corpo" para você, leitor, viver esse história complexa.

Trabalhar com alienígenas parace algo óbvio, mas não aqui. Como o autor construiu relação e encontro dos humanos com os trisolarians foi muito inusitada.
Esse livro tem muitas camadas e reflexões sobre a humanidade.

Vale a pena.

Andre 18/11/2020

Eu gostei bastante desse livro, uma ficção científica de primeira e diferente. Quase foi cinco estrelas, só não foi por umas coisinhas que eu não gosto, do tipo acontecer coisas meio forçadas pra história andar. Vale muito a pena.